@shawn16400 could you elaborate on how this lineup of stewards was selected? Iâve tried to follow the back links to the past post and the steward report cards and Iâm not seeing how you arrived at this line-up.
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hi @lthrift thanks for the question. The selection of the Seward Council is an algorithm - a basic calculation of a persons average governance & Gitcoin participation over the past 6 months.
the calculation is:
V0.7 + F_t1.1 + F_t_p1.5 + F_p0.7 + F_p_p*1 + W
Where:
V = Vote participation on Snapshot (only proposals with >0.5M GTC are counted)
F_t = Forum Topics initiated (excluding the âProposal Discussionâ category)
F_t_p = Forum Topics initiated in the âProposal Discussionâ category
F_p = Forum posts (excluding the âProposal Discussionâ category)
F_p_p = Forum posts in the âProposal Discussionâ category
W = Workstream involvement. Lead role adds 5p and contributor adds 3p to health.
This new 180 day look back view can be seen in here - and this 180 day look back view will be added to the standard daostewards.xyz site shortly.
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Thanks, thatâs helpful!
I noticed that the workstream data point is incorrect for many stewards here. How are those being populated and how could we improve the accuracy?
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Hi @lthrift - thanks for bringing that one up, I will have a look and make any needed adjustments. thanks!
It may be also worth noting that a couple of the folks selected are no longer participating in or with the DAO (the joys of a lagging indication for selection process).
Have we confirmed that each of these people selected want to be included?
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hi Kyle - for the new additions to the council - I have messages out for confirmation, and have already removed one candidate who said they no were longer interested. One of the improvement areas we identified in the Retro was how Stewards move on, and off of the Council. Given anyone can stop participation at any point, we would do well to build an offboarding process, triggers for that process, and what we should do if participation were to fall below a specific level. To your question, I have not reached out to returning members asking for confirmation, but I can do that now.
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Hey @shawn16400 @kyle I was gonna ask about that actually. I have activity in governance and enough GTC delegated but I would still like to be given the choice to participate or not to the steward council.
At this point I would like to remain a steward but step down from the council as itâs demanding time-wise, compensation is not enough and perhaps replacing me with someone more aligned with the way gitcoin is ran right now would be better for the project.
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Hey all!
Thanks for putting this together, I think itâs a really great starting point. One thing I noticed that the current council only reflects a couple of workstreams (mainly FDD and DAO Ops) and misses quite a few highly active stewards. As @kyle noted some folks are also no longer working for the DAO although they may have been when the snapshot was taken.
Especially given that weâre talking about this council being in place for a relatively long period (180 days) Iâd like to propose an amended selection process, based on the success weâve seen in CSDO and other governance bodies. In fact, we could view âSCâ as principally guiding strategic decisions while âCSâ guides tactical ones. Take this as just one option as we continue to iterate towards the best possible stewards council.
Step 1: Workstream Nomination. Each workstream nominates (via any process they see fit, one lead for each meeting (monthly). They are required to have prepared a list of key strategy questions (e.g. fraud might ask âshould we have an open data service that helps us streamline Sybil data analysisâ; PGF might ask âwhat kinds of rounds should the program run that it isnât thinking about and whyâ; GPC might ask âhow do we ensure weâre building best with the communityâ). Workstreams risk slashing if they donât come through with these questions consistently.
Step 2a Steward Nomination, Each workstream nominates at most 3 stewards to go into a pool. Each steward must be a non-active workstream member (i.e. an âindependentâ member). This allows us to bring in folks that can provide strong external guidance and relevant domain expertise that might not be present internally. We can also require that selected stewards meet some threshold of activity or delegation.
Step 2b: Steward Nomination. Chosen stewards go into a QV, and workstreams nominate 3 members each to vote. We can even dogfood our own quadratic voting site for this.
Step 3: Ratification. We elect that council in a forum post + snapshot vote as usual. Crucially, if at any time someone needs to step down we can simply use the previous vote rankings to determine who might take their place.
IMO this wouldnât take very long to organize and might yield better results than relying mainly on the health cards. For context, I originally designed the health cards as a way to track total steward engagement, but didnât necessarily intend for it to be used in this kind of election process when I first conceived of it (though I think itâs a good input). Would love any thoughts and feedback on this approach.
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Hey Scott, thanks for the conversation. As I surveyed existing steward council members, it became clear that the objectives of SC need deeper clarification.
The mechanism for deciding who is on the council is important, but if we are not clear on what the council does, the what will be invented by the who. We will get a result, but not sure if it will be the right result.
Most all the feedback I saw agrees with your assessment that we need to move the SC to a strategic posture, and I think we can afford to be a bit descriptive here. I sent a draft proposal over to @krrisis on a proposal that addresses 1) what the council should, and should not do 2) council renumeration and 3) how we decide who is on the council - which is a copy past of your proposal above.
Beginning with the end in mind, I think we can set ourselves up with finding the right people, to do the right work. Thanks again for the direction, and I am looking forward to iterating through this with you and incorporating broad feedback.
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The mechanism for deciding who is on the council is important, but if we are not clear on what the council does, the what will be invented by the who. We will get a result, but not sure if it will be the right result.
Definitely agree on this and glad to hear weâre thinking carefully about what the council will be doing. I think I skipped over this since from my conversation with @krrisis it sounded like we were on the right track there (and this may have been informed by your proposal).
Thanks for all of the work towards this 
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Itâs amazing to see all this fresh and constructive energy and convos taking place! 
As some people may know, Iâm quite passionate about Gitcoin DAO and what it could grow into.
IMHO(as a person that worked and joined over 10 daos, all with over 1 m$ in funding and with more than 100 members each) I can subjectivelly say that we are one of âthe flagship DAOsâ in the space.
We are not perfect and kinda face some of the issues that all DAOs face, BUT what could differentiate us(on a DAO level) could be the solutions that we implement to overcome those barriers. Constructive creativity bares a huge role here. I also think that conflict management should be included in the convo. I sometimes feel that people run away from conflict, but conflict should be discussed in a safe space because this is not a zero sum game, but a positive sum one=> meaning that both parties could end up winning if the âconflictâ is managed properly.
What can I sayâŚItâs just incredibly exciting to see what the SC will grow into 
and how it could forever shape the quadratic lands
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Thanks for creating such a knowledge/information enhancing Blog.
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Thank @shawn16400 for your hard working (v1 retro and v2 intro)!
I agree with @ceresstation for the current situations (most steward council members from FDD or DAO Ops). so I have only one concerns,
how could we (steward council) care about other workstreams like (PGF, MC, MMM, GPC etc)?
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Hi Bob
Great question IMO! This independence can be provided by metagovernance DAOs like Wildfire (full disclosure - Iâm a member).
Overall however web3 does not have much of a model to fund such efforts. Wildfire is a bit unique in that the founding team was able to summons hundreds of web3 enthusiasts to assist - and then did a screening to select and help to assign operators to various projects that the founders - 
_ - wanted to support.
Iâm one of a handful of people working in public goods. There are also professionals working in DeFi, Creator Economy, and Infrastructure. The collective perspective across DAOs is afaik pretty unique.
More on Wildfire if you are interested in the June introductory forum post here:
Iâm happy to discuss live sometime as well if youâd like as it would be amazing to get your thoughts on meta governance and just DAO governance. Iâm epowell101 on Discord as well.
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This is such a great point - and I see two perspectives - with infinite options in-between
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Decentralized maxi role: put this up for vote and let voters decide. Downside of this is that you can inadvertently lop side the Council. I have seen this happen in a DAO and the result was some months later the non-represented workstreams were voted out of existence.
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Inclusive maxi role: Each workstream has an equal representation on the council. Downside of this is less governance-engaged workstreams takes up space that could be utilized by more engaged strategic thinkers - the larger the council, the greater the issue.
The middle path might be:
- Encourage more steward participation from under represented workstreams
- Reserve limited percentage of seats for each workstream
- Encourage the right mindset: council members must think âwhat is best for the DAOâ and not âwhat is best for my workstreamâ
The current version we are working includes a variation of #2, and specific wording around #3. For number 1, I have reached out to an existing workstream that is underrepresented asked to join one of their calls (after GR15) to talk about the copious benefits of becoming a steward (fame, fortune, celebrity, etc. etc. etc.)
does this approach resonate? Or are there other ideas we should consider?
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@epowell101 - this is an interesting prompt. I am doing a lot of thinking about the pros & cons of the delegate governance model and although it is different from metagovernance, there are parallels that can be drawn. If anyone needs it, here is a primer on metagovernance which I am a wee bit partial to.
Although I believe there are fundamental gaps in the way web3 approaches metagovernance, I can see how it does not have (or has less of) the agency problem delegation has. For clarity - I am referring to token-owned metagovernance, not just delegated metagovernance - which to me is just delegation to an org vs. an individual. Letâs connect on this, I have some ideas on how to leverage the public goods ecosystem for robust governance.
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Quick update on where this work stands:
- A new proposal draft has been completed covering three components: A) an update of the purpose of the steward council, B) proposed steward council renumerations and C) revised selection process.
- This proposal has been shared with CSDO and we have requested input
- We intend to review this proposal with the Stewards in the steward call on Monday Oct 03.
Thanks to @ceresstation @kyle and @krrisis for collaborating on the draft to this point, and we welcome input from CSDO and the stewards.
Finally, we are looking forward to getting this proposal on to the forum for broader input shortly.
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Thanks @shawn16400 and others for all the hard work on the draft. Itâs great to see more structure in the council and stipends for contribution. I think itâs a positive step in the right direction.
I will remain a delegate for Gitcoin DAO but Iâd like to remove myself as a potential nominee to be considered for the council as the new increased time commitments are past what Iâm able to commit to (especially with the frequency of meetings and often time zones that are difficult for me) and I want to be supportive of those that are able to make this commitment.
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Hi All -
Thanks very much to your comments on this post - the results of your input has been captured in a new proposal linked below. It would be great if you can review that proposal and provide any feedback. We think this is a solid proposal, but we are counting on you to help make it even better.
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This was awesome. If you could explain a bit more on how the list was chosen, that would be fantastic!