Beyond QF quadratic funding: comments, suggestions, ideas 💡

Beyond QF

My personal view, exhibit :zero::

It’s not the broader Web3 community vote. It’s a popularity / shilling contest. Who has the most loyal community that is already onboarded to Web3.
Shared this view while hosting LetsGROW Live and everyone currently on the space agreed, I saw a screen full of emoji reactions.

Exhibit :one:: Ditch Quadratic Funding?

Exhibit :two:: someone talking about different voting: Telegram: Contact @climatecoordinationnetwork

Just wondering what platforms out there enable conviction voting?
I think gitcoin only enables QF? They did some blog posts about conviction but I can’t see it anywhere in the final platform

Exhibit :three:: harsh (controversial, provocative, could be engagement farming) tweet but delivers the point::

Quadratic Funding isn’t just a flawed popularity contest; it’s detrimental because it devolves into a self-congratulatory circlejerk.

Based on :zero: :one: :two: :three: I think there is enough evidence to figure out something better.

EDIT / UPDATE: Ma Earth | Observations from Ma Earth’s first quadratic funding round

Everyone is competing and coordinating in a way that promotes the round. The current social media landscape reinforces this. It can become fatiguing, and a common criticism is that people feel it becomes a “shill fest” and “popularity contest”.

That marketing can have real value though

Projects are effectively competing with others in the pool. The more funds that get raised in aggregate, the more these matching multiples will dimish over time; but that also means more capital is coming in, so it’s working.

(great read with a fresh perspective)

Winners decide

Based on my observation (loyal community, network, good shillketing execution) I assume that winners of the QF are reliable, trustworthy, with established trust and reputation. Because of that trustworthines and reputation I’m suggesting creating a new model of fund distribution: top 20% of the projects distribute 20% of the allocated funds:

  • 5% to projects that are good.
  • 5% to projects that are good AND received little
  • 5% to frens
  • 5% to anyone you want, including keep to yourself

It can be cumulative, so if there is project that is good, and received little, run by a fren, and in fact this is my free choice = all the 20% of the distribution can go to a single project.

(this is currently proof of concept, there is no formal definition of what “good” or “little” or “fren” means, using social contract and common sense)

Community signal

This is an experiment ran by me. Encouraging “vonations” :ballot_box: (vote with your donation, but without jockeying for positions). A round without massive matching: Planetary Council: community signal :seedling:

Genuine community vote, genuine community signal to tell us which project we should dedicate our focus :eyes: :brain: :robot: There is no massive matching pool, shiling, jockeying for positions. Instread we encourage you to have a look at the projects and see if you can donate / contribute resources: time, energy, effort, money.

Public goods generic category / charitable

Dedicated post about it:

Kickstarter style fundraising / crowdfunding platform

From the rules:

I can totally imagine accepting payment cards and treating Gitcoin as fundraising / crowdfunding platform. Not just :credit_card: but also PayPal Venmo WeChat, any form of currency to onboard “normies”.

Dedicated thread: $10,000 Donated to Gitcoin Zuzalu Round with Credit Card Pilot Project Proposal

Kickback / receipt of donation in the form of tokens

I reached out on Twitter to the author of the above Zuzalu Credit Card Pilot Project:

I was also thinking about “receipt of donation” - for every $ donated you receive a token, first ticker than came to mind is $DON (shorthand for donation) And then: some businesses that want to cater to Web3 / ReFi / regen communities can openly say: 80% cash 20% discount by accepting $DON (and then rabbit holes of #TokenEngineering, locking, burning, staking, all that fancy stuff)

(also like Don Corleone, the mafia boss, regen mafia boss, sounds cool)

The cashback in $DON… That’s also kind of logical. Inspired by the UK regulation - when donating, cannot receive anything in exchange. Donation token = hacker mindset, finding loopholes, treating regulation as a guideline.

I think it has some merit.

I think it adds additional incentive

I can totally imagine some eco regen community that has $50 per day accommodation facility to charge $40 and the rest is in $DON.

Measuring impact

As long as it legal and profitable, as long as dead treet is worth more than living tree, the destruction will continue, need to change the incentives and measure the full cost.

A new initiative that was created during GG20: https://impactevaluation.foundation

We invite frens / supporters / collaborators. Open-source, collaborative, transparent, public good from the start.

Twitter: @ImpactEvalFDN
Telegram: @ImpactEval

Not optimising for social media metrics, allowing it to grow organically before making waves and spreading out. If you are reading this, you are one of the first people / dogs / bots to know.

Curation on the homepage

Opened the issue on Grants Stack Github:

Make it nice and appealing. If there is some cool round going on feature it on explorer.gitcoin.co as well as the main homepage gitcoin.co.
WIN-WIN-WIN. Quality rounds with quality projects help Gitcoin establish good first impression. Someone visits the homepage and sees quality.

That is also related to use cases for GTC and auction for real-estate and being featured.

HINT: I would love for Planetary Council: community signal :seedling: to be featured, more than happy to offer legal bribes aka “incentives”.

Going 100x from here

Shared this thought on Discord:

Gitcoin has easy potential to go 100x from here, I can totally imagine a prosperous country like Norway or Saudi Arabia gives us 1% of their sovereing fund budget to fund public goods.

Some entities have more money than they can spend, that triggers ponzinomics style valuations of unprofitable startups and insane P/E (price to earnings) ratio multiples. I believe that reliably measuring impact (see above Impact Evaluation Foundation), being able to put $ sign next to impact created - that will enable more funding towards public goods.

Comment from a fren, I generally agree with this sentiment, that’s why revisiting and bumping this thread:

I can see the same pattern in all rounds
Established projects get the juice
Start-ups get the dust

I onboarded friends and family to web3, they wanted to support me =)
guess what, their contributions didn’t count
I spent HOURS explaining what things are and getting them a Gitcoin passport

Octant using QF:

Broad support base (established projects) benefit the most.

Link to the docs: Quadratic Funding | Octant Docs

Discussion from CCN (climate coordination network)

Source: t.me/climatecoordinationnetwork/5344

COCM = Connection Oriented Cluster Match

Hybrid approach:

Some passport score through stamps: support.passport.xyz/passport-knowledge-base/stamps/scoring-20-for-humans Some passport score though wallet history.

Some QF matching (simple version), some QF matching via COCM.

Some matching “direct grants” (decided by the round operators and stewards), some matching “winners decide” (being successful at Gitcoin game is a genuine seal of approval indicating loyal following and community)

Some matching based on the objective-ish criteria:

  • execution so far
  • accomplishments so far (lifetime)
  • accomplishments since previous funding round
  • quality of the grant application
  • social proof, media mentions
  • potential impact
  • urgency and necessity of the problem
  • whether the problem is under-researched, under-solved

Exact list of criteria: TBD TBC. “Objective-ish” because there is some subjective evaluation, but with enough independent evaluators in can converge into a single value. Could be done by stewards / community / independent 3rd party / participanting projects themselves.

(that’s an entire interesting game-theory when projects rate themselves - possible to add additional criterium - how accurately the project is evaluating others - concerned about additional complexity and labour required)

:brain::books: GreenPill content: https://greenpill.network/

(I’ve learnt something about new already, check them out)

Seems like everyone is using QF :slight_smile:

Copy-paste from the header:

Copy-paste from the body:

“The broader the support, the bigger the match!”

I agree.

QF massively promotes projects with well established community, that is a good proxy for how successful project is. Not sure to what extent this dynamics was described in the paper, but somehow magically it works.

5 more hours to donate here :moneybag:

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https://x.com/ImpactEvalFDN/status/1826204727970799848

Calling spade a spade: Grants Round 2 — Ma Earth

There is no “wisdom of the crowds”.

It is straight down to business: power of your own network.